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182 How To Manage Real Estate “Dog” Deals on RE Investor Show -Hard Money for Real Estate Investors!

Join the Carolina Capital team every Thursday at 12 pm Eastern for the Real Estate Investor Show – Hard Money for Real Estate Investors!

Today, in celebration of National Dogs in Politics Day, Bill Fairman, Wendy Sweet & Jonathan Davis talk about real estate “Dog Deals”.

When investing in real estate keep in mind that even experienced investors make mistakes. Finding “dog deals” that may costs you money is inevitable. But in the long run, you are still going to profit more than you are going to lose. – Bill Fairman

Timestamps:

0:01 – Introduction: “Animal Lovers! We have some “Dogs” for You!“

0:40https://carolinahardmoney.com/

1:08 https://calendly.com/wendysweet/wednesdays-with-wendy?month=2021-11

2:08 – Breaking News

2:31 – Employment Numbers are Higher by 2 million

2:51 – Home Builders are Building More

5:21 – Next Show: Passive Accredited Investor Show – IRA Crisis in Congress! With Jeff Watson – https://youtu.be/t4d6dOQ-2EY

6:14 – Deals that were “Dogs”

6:32 – What are real estate “dog deals”?

14:41 – Wendy’s favorite “dog deal”

15:45 – Lesson’s learned in Wendy’s “dog deal”

16:45 – Bill’s “dog deal”

17:47 – Wendy’s another “dog deal”

19:24 – Jonathan’s “dog deal’

23:32 – Sneak Peek for the month of October

23:56 – Bill’s bottom line

24:33 – Wendy’s bottom line

25:02 – Jonathan’s bottom line

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Bill Fairman (00:00):

Animal lovers? Well, do we have some dogs for you? Right after this.

Bill Fairman (00:16):

We’re kind of laughing, laughing, because we sort of plan these things,

Wendy Sweet  (00:22):

We?

Bill Fairman (00:22):

In advance.

Wendy Sweet  (00:24):

Keep it to yourselves.

Bill Fairman (00:25):

So welcome to, and thanks for joining us, joining us in Real Estate Investors Show, Hard Money for Real Estate Investors. We are Carolina Capital Management, and if you are a oh no, we’re borrowers for real estate.

Jonathan Davis (00:40):

We’re not borrowers real estate. We’re lenders for real estat.

Bill Fairman (00:43):

Lenders for real estate in the Southeast. If you would like to become a borrower and your property is located in the Southeast, go to CarolinaHardmoney.com and click on the apply now tab. If you’re a passive investor looking for passive returns, then click on the accredited investor tab. Don’t forget to like share subscribe, hit the bell and sign up for Wednesdays with Wendy.

Wendy Sweet  (01:10):

That’s right.

Jonathan Davis (01:24):

You take one week off and, one week off.

Bill Fairman (01:26):

Wendy gives up every Wednesday afternoon to help other real estate investors with their real estate question. And, okay, so now she’s changing the game. Here’s her Calendly link. Schedule your time. She’s usually booked out a couple of months in advance. So get it now. Again, you don’t have to talk real estate, but you’re wasting your time if your,

Wendy Sweet  (01:55):

Yeah. I have opening starting in November now. Well, still september. It’s not bad.

Jonathan Davis (02:03):

You know, month and a half booked out. That’s pretty good.

Bill Fairman (02:08):

Well, let’s get this,

Wendy Sweet  (02:11):

Party started.

Bill Fairman (02:11):

Train wreck started with breaking news, please.

Bill Fairman (02:30):

So let’s start off with the employment. It was a little higher this week than last week in the 300 and something thousand range, but it was 2 million more than was expected. And you know, that stuff is going to kind of fluctuate, anyway. I’m concerned about it. Builder or building starts good. It was again, higher than expected. I can’t give you the exact number. It’s all good.

Wendy Sweet  (03:02):

It’s really going. Good going into this time of the year.

Jonathan Davis (03:04):

Well, it isn’t it finally, I don’t know the timeframe but finally new starts on single family is ahead of new starts on multi-family.

Bill Fairman (03:16):

Yeah.

Wendy Sweet  (03:16):

Wow. That’s pretty amazing thing.

Bill Fairman (03:18):

Awesome. Building permits are up too. So future building is also on the rise and it was higher than expected. I still think we’re going to run. All right. I’m getting ahead of myself builder sentiment.

Jonathan Davis (03:36):

You still good?

Bill Fairman (03:36):

Yeah. And see,

Wendy Sweet  (03:38):

How you feeling?

Bill Fairman (03:38):

I hate this statistic. It’s not actual statistics on the actual stuff. It’s just how they feel it about stuff.

Jonathan Davis (03:46):

Feelings are relevant. So I’m told by a lot of people

Bill Fairman (03:50):

That’s true. So that said, they’re cautious because they’re still worried about a supply chain issues, labor, shortages, or shortages still gonna figure in, which means it’s going to cost more to build houses. But as long as our interest rates stay relatively low, you still should be able to find an affordable

Wendy Sweet  (04:12):

I even heard this morning on the radio, they were talking about supply chain issues. And that if you haven’t been purged your Christmas gifts for this year, that you’re not going to get what you’re looking for. And I remember lashing out of trees, I didn’t, we didn’t have to trade.

Jonathan Davis (04:26):

I just saw, I think it was on CNN about it’s trees, artificial trees going up like double digits.

Wendy Sweet  (04:34):

And even they’re hard to get now. Yeah. It’s crazy. It’s crazy.

Bill Fairman (04:36):

Yeah. I heard Fox business center rang, you know, your, you know, toilet paper and stuff too.

Wendy Sweet  (04:43):

Oh my gosh.

Jonathan Davis (04:43):

Have we ran out of toilet paper again?

Wendy Sweet  (04:44):

Get a bidet.

Bill Fairman (04:46):

Costco, which is like getting into that. So Costco is one of the best

Jonathan Davis (04:58):

You’re not getting [Inaudible]

Bill Fairman (05:01):

Costco is the one that’s sending out the warning to store up. So all that means is everyone’s going to run into

Jonathan Davis (05:09):

You mean the place that benefits when you buy stuff from them, tells you, Hey, come spend money because

Wendy Sweet  (05:16):

That’s like fox in the henhouse saying, you need to take your lock off

Bill Fairman (05:19):

By the way, coming up in our one o’clock hour. Very important show. You have to come if you have an IRA.

Wendy Sweet  (05:30):

If you are in the business

Bill Fairman (05:32):

You’re a real estate investor, at, if you’re in the real estate business at, oh, this concerns you.

Jonathan Davis (05:41):

And if you have a 401k, solo 401k. It will probably affect you if it’s down the road,

Wendy Sweet  (05:49):

This cripple, what they’re doing with his IRA crisis, it could cripple the real estate market market, which would mean all I, you, all of the economy, we’ve been so highly on it. It’s a big deal.

Bill Fairman (06:04):

Again, stay tunned for the,

Wendy Sweet  (06:04):

Show. We have Jeff Watson, incredible attorney

Bill Fairman (06:08):

So we’re going to talk about some heavier news deals that were dogs. So since I’m on the fundraising side and I’m sure I’ve got some in the back of my head from when I wasn’t on the funding side, but since you guys are in the lending, trenches who wants to go first with a?

Wendy Sweet  (06:34):

So what exactly do you mean by “Dog”?

Bill Fairman (06:35):

Well, it could have started off to be a dog and finished up nice, or it could have just been a dog to begin with.

Wendy Sweet  (06:42):

I think they all start off good and turn into dogs. And sometimes they come out of it and sometimes they don’t, right?

Bill Fairman (06:49):

I can tell you, most of the time it’s either market conditions, turn it off because if you’re getting money for it and you’re going through a legitimate. Dogs aren’t going to get through,

Wendy Sweet  (07:02):

I really believe that biggest thing that causes the dog as you put it is underestimating your rehab budget and surprises that you don’t see going in. That happens pretty commonly don’t you think?

Jonathan Davis (07:19):

Oh yeah. I mean surprises, every time, for sure. It is like pick out if didn’t pick out a dog, it’s like cute little dogs that you’re like, oh my gosh, this project was like, oh, it was like, oh, I see it, yeah, that’s pretty. And then it grew up and it turned it into this ugly, ugly, little mud.

Wendy Sweet  (07:43):

Yeah, chewing your underwear.

Jonathan Davis (07:45):

But it turned out, you know, I guess if we could keep the, you know, the metaphor go, I guess it’s like, it’s the best trained dog ever. And then everyone wanted that dog. It has highs and its lows, but you remember the,

Bill Fairman (07:58):

Let me interrupt you real quick. If you’re using or using a hard money lender to do your deals, they are going to make sure that your budgets are in line.

Wendy Sweet  (08:12):

We do our best to do that

Bill Fairman (08:13):

To do these on your own, it may happen. But if you’re using a lender, they’re going to make sure that your budget is proper to begin with. The only thing they can’t control is unforeseen show. No one has x-ray vision. Go ahead.

Jonathan Davis (08:24):

I’ve seen totally worth interrupting me for it.

Wendy Sweet  (08:26):

Could’ve been done.

Bill Fairman (08:26):

I would have forgotten. That’s why I had to speak up.

Jonathan Davis (08:26):

So in NoDa, well, I guess it’s Shamrock Plaza is really where it was. We did 44.

Wendy Sweet  (08:47):

Duplexes.

Jonathan Davis (08:48):

Duplexes that were also condos.

Wendy Sweet  (08:50):

Individually owned.

Jonathan Davis (08:51):

Individually owned. It was across three different streets. These 44.

Wendy Sweet  (08:59):

Great location.

Jonathan Davis (08:59):

There were drugs in there. I mean, just, you don’t want it. You do not. I would not walk on that in 2008. I wouldn’t walk on that road at night. And so they converted all of these into two bedrooms, one and a half, two baths. Completely redid them. I think they bought them somewhere between 90 and 125 a door and they have one they’ve all been refiled since then. Selling one, that’s under contract closes next month for like 275 for one door.

Wendy Sweet  (09:36):

Wow. That’s pretty good.

Jonathan Davis (09:38):

And the most beautiful part about this is it started, our accounting team hated it because.

Wendy Sweet  (09:43):

Our accounting team.

Jonathan Davis (09:44):

Our accounting team. Because it was pushing forward condos. So it was 44 different loans instead of one loan. So that was not fun.

Wendy Sweet  (09:52):

Some of them were owned by different rent fractions of the original people.

Jonathan Davis (09:58):

Yep. So they had to go in, I mean, complete revamp of this whole neighborhood. New roofs, completely redo the whole layout. They wasn’t room underneath the floors and the crawl space for water heaters. So they had to go tankless on everything. I mean, you’re just like, we blew through the budget twice.

Wendy Sweet  (10:21):

That’s right.

Jonathan Davis (10:22):

We’ve blew at the budget twice. But the thing was, we could see the borrower’s vision, even though at that time it was like, this is a dog. I could see and you’re like, okay, we, we know where it’s going. And I mean, yeah. And now they’re, you know, I’m for 95 to 125 a door and they were selling between 250 and 275. So, and the beautiful part about that was the borrower had several people who stayed in that location. Uh, once they got all the drug dealers now and they came up and just said, thank you so much.

Wendy Sweet  (10:58):

For fixing our neighborhood.

Jonathan Davis (10:58):

For turning our neighborhood neighborhood around. Like, I can’t like my house is now worth double what it was before and I don’t have the problems around here. So like the community aspect of it was amazing.

Wendy Sweet  (11:11):

Yeah. I really liked too about those borrowers. We do a lot of loans for them and they’re so open-minded, they took me with them while they were framing and we walked in every single unit and they sent it to what I said about, you know, because they were going with real small closets. I had them in closet. We had them close up openings that didn’t need to be there. And change the things in the kitchen around just to give it more room. And they took my advice. My advice that they did.

Jonathan Davis (11:42):

Could be why they got those 275.

Wendy Sweet  (11:44):

Well, they, you know, there’s a difference and I’m going to say it out loud between the way a man looks at a place and the way a woman looks at a place.

Bill Fairman (11:51):

Sorry those are pronouns.

Wendy Sweet  (11:54):

So there, I’m going to identify as a total female at this point. It’s important to put that into perspective because the, you know, we own real estate. It’s the wife or the female in the relationship, that’s really gonna,

Jonathan Davis (12:12):

Kitchens, bathrooms and closets.

Wendy Sweet  (12:13):

That’s right. So they were really good about listening to that. And I think they even volunteered to paint everybody’s door in all three streets, so it would have a nice uniform,

Jonathan Davis (12:25):

Not just the door, but paint their brick. So they’re all gray. So anyone, even a house or duplex they didn’t own, you know, they paid everyone’s houses who wanted it

Wendy Sweet  (12:37):

Yeah. It to upgrade it. And it’s a great community.

Jonathan Davis (12:40):

Now, I mean, like, I drove through there not too long ago and I’m just like looking around like, wow,

Wendy Sweet  (12:49):

It’s amazing. It’s amazing .

Jonathan Davis (12:50):

This place had turned around.

Wendy Sweet  (12:51):

But it was rough going through it.

Jonathan Davis (12:54):

So, you know, we blew the budget twice. I think it took own most 12 months longer than we thought it would to get it all done, but it worked out and that’s the beautiful thing. We’re private lenders like ourselves. We have the ability to see that vision and the flexibility to move with you. Whereas if you’re with perhaps more institutional funds, that vision of funding.

Bill Fairman (13:26):

So do they keep a few [Inaudible].

Jonathan Davis (13:26):

They kept a few around, yep.

Wendy Sweet  (13:34):

That would make it, make it great. Big area too. Oh yeah. And the association isn’t going to stop it.

Jonathan Davis (13:40):

That’s not true. That’s not true. You’re not allowed to, yeah. Per the, HOA rules, you cannot Airbnb.

Wendy Sweet  (13:46):

They’re on the board of every single one of them. They could change that.

Jonathan Davis (13:50):

I don’t know if they have, but,

Bill Fairman (13:52):

You could make suggestions to change them.

Wendy Sweet  (13:52):

Yeah. That’s for sure.

Jonathan Davis (13:52):

Last I heard it was not allowed.

Wendy Sweet  (13:56):

That’s a shame.

Jonathan Davis (14:01):

And it’s just approved. Not very far from the, it’s less than a mile. Yeah. That’s cool. Cool little spot. But yeah, the dog, accounting team cussed me out probably every week.

Wendy Sweet  (14:13):

They did it respectfully though.

Jonathan Davis (14:15):

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Mostly behind my back. I heard it.

Wendy Sweet  (14:18):

No, that was us. No, that was really a good deal. They’re a great client. We love having them.

Bill Fairman (14:25):

Everything interesting?

Wendy Sweet  (14:26):

Yeah. Why? I mean, I could list an entire sheet of dogs

Jonathan Davis (14:31):

You heard it straigh from here. If you have a dog bring it to Wendy.

Wendy Sweet  (14:34):

Yeah, because we’ve seen them all. Participants some. I’ve had some of my own. My favorite one, the one that my husband and I got into right off the park road, this happened to me in 2005, I believe. 2005, 2006 somewhere in that branch.

Bill Fairman (14:52):

Cause I had a house right next door.

Wendy Sweet  (14:55):

Right next door. So we go in and, you know, I did everything wrong. We did our own work. Number one, don’t ever do that. My husband, who is extremely talented as, as subcontractor is also extremely precise and he’s going to try to straighten out a hundred year old walls balls and make it perfect. And that doesn’t work if you’re doing a rehab for sure. But anyway, he did a beautiful job, fixing it up. We put it on the market. Guy came in and bought it and we made a thousand off of it. So we were thrilled about that. Guy came in and bought it, knocked it down, built a new house on top of that. That was worth 300,000 more dollars than the one we solding.

Bill Fairman (15:46):

The lesson learned here was look at your highest and best use when you get a place.

Wendy Sweet  (15:52):

That’s right.

Bill Fairman (15:52):

And the highest and best use in that particular market at the time was really, tear downs. Cause people were building [Inaudible]

Wendy Sweet  (16:00):

It was happening around me. All up and down the street. And I didn’t pay attention to it. I didn’t listen to my own preach. And what was so bad about it is that I was trying to be cheap too, which is another thing I preach against. I didn’t want,

Jonathan Davis (16:19):

What?

Wendy Sweet  (16:19):

I did not want to have to borrow enough money. You know, the money that I needed. I wanted to try to use as much cash as possible. We tried to do our own work. We did everything I tell people not to do and we could have, if we had done it right, we could have made a couple of hundred thousand dollars off of that deal. And it ended up making 30. So that kind of suck.

Bill Fairman (16:44):

Well, the house that I had right next to it, it wasn’t mine. A company that I worked for. And we made a $300,000 loan on it with cash out and on a free and clear property. It was the son of the person has to weigh in that house. So they were the air and never made the first payment on it closed. Now, if he would’ve just put the house up for sale, they’ll he would’ve gotten so much more money but instead he got a loan

Wendy Sweet  (17:15):

And went up.

Bill Fairman (17:18):

Payment and then, you know, we ended up having to go through foreclosure. So the company that I worked for ended up losing money, he lost money. And then people that bought it from us, ended up knocking it down and

Wendy Sweet  (17:35):

Building a nice house. So that was, yeah, that was a rough, but that was not the capital that did that, just so we know.

Bill Fairman (17:44):

This was 2005.

Wendy Sweet  (17:46):

That’s right. So we have another one too that was a loan that we lent on. A house that we lent money on. It was a ground up construction. We ended up having to take the house back when I’m country club. Right in the middle of NoDa, just could not be a more prime local location. And the mistake we made is finishing the house, first of all, instead of just selling it but we only had a foundation at the time. But we finished it with the plans that were in place from the person that we took it back from. And unfortunately he had builder grade plans on a house that would be worth $900,000. And it hurt. I mean, it took us a long time to get it sold, sold. We lost money on that house. Personally, we lost money on it. Cause we cash into that one. So that kinda sucked. And the problem to that is you need to be building or rehabbing with equal with where `the house is located. Don’t don’t under cut. Don’t try to,

Jonathan Davis (19:01):

Don’t go too far over. Don’t go too under.

Wendy Sweet  (19:03):

Yeah. That’s another good point is don’t over, either because you won’t get your money. You want to talk about that?

Jonathan Davis (19:13):

I know.

Wendy Sweet  (19:17):

That’s his own personal deal, you know, do what we say, not as we do.

Jonathan Davis (19:22):

Yeah. Oh yeah. I blame Cabarrus county.

Wendy Sweet  (19:27):

That sounds good. I’ll do that too.

Jonathan Davis (19:30):

For a little bit of it. I do blame them for a little bit of it, but man, hadn’t come out four times each time they would point out something different for the electrical inspections. And then finally got out there and he was like, oh yeah, you have to have a complete Meg is done upstairs. So that’s how I have to pay electrical engineer to come in and test every single wire, every single outlet, every, you know, everything in there. And then tell me what else is wrong. Luckily, it wasn’t as much as we thought, but the worst part is after we fix it, I have to hire him back to do the same test again, to show that,

Wendy Sweet  (20:16):

That it’s been done done.

Jonathan Davis (20:19):

You know, it’s not too bad. It’s only like, you know, a little over two grand per test, that’s it. Yeah.

Wendy Sweet  (20:25):

That’s something, you can’t plan for that. You can’t put that in your budget.

Jonathan Davis (20:31):

Oh yeah, I mean, my budget, whoo!

Wendy Sweet  (20:32):

That’s tough.

Bill Fairman (20:33):

The good news, the market covers up a lot of space.

Jonathan Davis (20:37):

Well, the thing is, yeah. I mean that, yeah, the electrical is a mistake know also put in also I put in, what is it? A porcelain tile floors down

Bill Fairman (20:53):

You know, that’s the part that I was talking about in the first place.

Jonathan Davis (20:55):

Yeah. And it cost me, you know, two weeks and I don’t know how much money, I wouldn’t want to say. But I could have just put in luxury vinyl but again, luckily every day that becomes more and more valuable. My mistakes are mistakes are covered up

Bill Fairman (21:18):

And by the way, the house is absolutely gorgeous and you got a good deal on it and you’re still gonna make profit.

Jonathan Davis (21:23):

If anyone wants a house in Concord,

Wendy Sweet  (21:26):

That’s already done. It’s ready to go.

Jonathan Davis (21:28):

Yeah. Yeah. Once the electric is good, once the electric is done upstairs, it’s done.

Wendy Sweet  (21:33):

That’s for sure. You know, I’ve got one more, we talked, we talked about inspection.

Bill Fairman (21:37):

Electricity is overrated.

Wendy Sweet  (21:40):

Yeah. Electricity is overrated. So we talked about how inspection can hold you back and how time can save you as well as kill you. My business partner and I had a house in, um, uh, here in rock hill and center street and we bought it thinking we were going to put, you know, bought it for 80, we’re going to put another 80 into it and thought we would be able to sell it in the low twos. We ended up from inspection, after inspection, failed inspection after failed inspections. And three contractors later ended up putting $160,000.

Jonathan Davis (22:18):

And your original budget was 80.

Wendy Sweet  (22:19):

Our original budget was 80. So we’re a little over budget.

Jonathan Davis (22:21):

Just a little bit, a little bit.

Wendy Sweet  (22:23):

When we put it on the market, by the time it was a year and a half later from when we started, by the time we put it back on the market, we were able to list it for, let’s say, 40, $50,000 higher than what we thought we were going to get for it when we bought it and we got full price offer. So we were thrilled about that. It actually left the closing table with about five grand in our pocket.

Jonathan Davis (22:54):

That that’s a win right there.

Wendy Sweet  (22:56):

But when you put in the factor in our financing, now our financing costs, we had, we make payments longer than we needed to. We actually only lost $4,000 on that.

Jonathan Davis (23:08):

Yeah. If you don’t have a net sheet, when you do these deals, like net sheet is just like net return. So takes in all the things that, you know, this insurance, everything along the way that is expense on that property, you won’t ever know your true return unless you track every single thing. Just because you walk away with a closing with $20,000 doesn’t mean you made 20,000

Bill Fairman (23:33):

By the way, a sneak peek into October. We were talking about the numbers on all these different investments. And Jonathan is going to do a webinar at the end of the month on all the Excel sheets.

Wendy Sweet  (23:51):

Excel spreadsheets. Awesome.

Bill Fairman (23:51):

That you can use to follow them, follow those spreadsheet.

Wendy Sweet  (23:54):

He’s a spreadsheet nerd. We love that about him.

Bill Fairman (23:56):

The bottom line is even experienced investors and people that see loans. I mean, in our case, we see loans every day. Hopefully we should learn even more from them. We still make mistakes. Sometimes, forces mistakes. Don’t get discouraged. We’re going to make money for the most part. I mean, you’re going to find deals that are dogs are going to cost you money. But part of that, it’s a learning experience, but in the long run, you’re always going to make more than you’re going to lose.

Wendy Sweet  (24:33):

So bottom line.

Bill Fairman (24:35):

Always bottom line.

Wendy Sweet  (24:40):

This is the bottom, bottom, bottom line. Always use worst-case scenario numbers. When you’re running your numbers. Number one.

Bill Fairman (24:48):

And she calls me the Debbie downer. Go ahead.

Wendy Sweet  (24:51):

So you always want to do that. And you will never make any money if you don’t try. Right?

Bill Fairman (24:58):

Well, that’s true. If you don’t take action, you’re going to make zero.

Wendy Sweet  (25:01):

That’s right. That’s right.

Jonathan Davis (25:02):

And then the bottom bottom bottom line is if someone tells you that they’ve never lost money in real estate, run from them.

Bill Fairman (25:11):

They haven’t done anything done any deals.

Jonathan Davis (25:12):

Either haven’t done any deals or the lying to you. One of them.

Bill Fairman (25:14):

Or they haven’t done enough.

Jonathan Davis (25:16):

Yeah. Well, you know, I’ve been doing this for 20 years. I’ve never lost a dime. I’m like, I don’t want to do business with you.

Jonathan Davis (25:26):

All right, folks. Thank you so much for joining us on the Real Estate Investor Show, Hard Money for Real Estate Investors. We are Carolina Capital Management. We are lenders for real estate investors in the Southeast. If you are interested in borrowing, go to CarolinaHardMoney.com click on the apply now tab. If you’re up to the investor, looking for passive returns, click on the accredited investor tab. Don’t forget to like, share, subscribe, hit the bell. Just think I was going to run out? And don’t forget to sign up with Wednesday with Wendy and our next show coming up. Very important. If you’re a real estate investor at all, this is a must see. See you shortly.

Bill Fairman (26:13):

Looking forward to it.

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